My blog was cited by a liberal blog!

By cited, I mean raped and left for dead in a ditch (shout out to Cloris Leachman). Following is the link to the complete post from http://www.village-idiot.org (Link Here). To sum it up, there has been controversy over doctors in California who were refusing to perform artificial inseminations on homosexuals because of their Christian beliefs. The author of the article at village-idiot discusses this issue and provides a link to a message board where people are defending the doctors’ rights to refuse service on a religious basis. The author then quotes a paragraph from my blog titled “Just the kind of ridiculous political correctness I was talking about…” in which I express my negative opinion of Muslim cab drivers who were refusing service to people with seeing-eye dogs or alcohol because it was against their religious beliefs. He/she then comes to the conclusion that a double standard is being set, even though the opinions cited in his/her blog to supposedly back this up are completely independent of each other and are expressed by different people who never make such a double standard argument:

All of this strikes me as a big case of religious and, let’s face it, ethnic cherry-picking: Muslims cannot refuse service on religion, but a Christian can? Apparently, the 1st amendment is only applicable to Christians? Since when?

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So I tried to post a comment on this person’s blog, but it just wasn’t working out for me because I kept on getting some 403 error (whatever that means). For now, I’ll just post my response to this blog here and reattempt to post it as a comment on the person’s page at a later time. I just wanted all of you to see my take on his/her article and my opinion on the misuse of the portion he/she quoted from mine. Also in the event that I am continually unable to post this response to his/her blog, hopefully he/she will return to my page and see it here. The response is as follows:

“Thanks for citing my blog! You did quite the job of twisting what I said into something completely different, however. Not only that, but you took it completely out of context. The post that this quote comes from has nothing to do with artificial insemination and is not focused on the issue of cab drivers refusing passengers on a religious basis.

What my post was about, as any readers smart enough to check sources will see, is how ridiculous it is that airports are catering to their Muslim cab drivers by installing foot baths in their bathrooms so that they can wash their feet before praying. There is no effort being made to accommodate other religions. In fact, airports or other businesses shouldn’t be trying to accommodate people on a religious basis at all.

My comment on cab drivers refusing passengers with dogs or alcohol was to show how people are going to absurd lengths to accommodate a religion that in principle will not accommodate to us.

You also make an illegitimate conclusion with this blog: that Christians or conservatives or whoever you’re referring to think it’s ok to refuse service based on religion but Muslims can’t. How do you come to that conclusion with the articles cited? They are completely independent of each other.

The first article was about doctors refusing artificial insemination to gays based on their Christian beliefs. At no point in that article was Islam even mentioned. Then you have my blog which makes brief reference to my negative opinion of Muslim cab drivers who refuse certain passengers based on religious belief. At no point in my blog did I say or even insinuate that I think it would be all right for Christians to do the same. Christians weren’t even mentioned in that regard. Your final link is to a message board in which the artificial insemination issue is discussed, and only one person mentions Islam or Muslims and not in a way which forms a double standard.

Once again, your conclusion was that someone was saying that it was fine for Christians to refuse service based on religion, but not for Muslims to do the same. The examples that you used to support this conclusion were that some people in California felt they could refuse service based on Christian beliefs and that some unrelated guy in Mississippi (myself) thought it was dumb that Muslim cab drivers were refusing passengers based on their religious beliefs.

It’s still up to you to explain to us who exactly is saying that it’s ok for one, but not the other. You just need to do so without taking people’s statements out of context and combining unrelated opinions as if they belong to a single person or group.

Feel free to keep using my blog as a source for your own blogs if you’d like. You can disagree with me all you want and express that disagreement in whatever way you deem appropriate, but I ask that you at least make honest use of my blogs to form legitimate points. Good day!”

Update (08/23/08): To add to it all, after reposting the person’s article here clearly showing the beginning and end of his/her work and stating what web site it came from and giving a link directly to that article, I received a message from the supposed webmaster of village-idiot.org saying that I violated his copyright. I’m no expert on copyright laws, but I took the post down and left only the link because I’m not trying to cause trouble. I suppose the issue is that I posted the entire article rather than a few quotes from it, so if you are reading this village-idiot webmaster, I apologize. I may update this again later using quotes and a summary of that post when I have more time. I also just tried to post my response to his/her blog again, but received the same 403 error. So now that this issue is resolved, hopefully the village-idiot webmaster will address my response to him that has been posted here so that we can discuss his article, with my blog as the forum for discussion.

Update (08/23/08): All right, now I have edited the beginning of this post to include a summary of the author’s post along with a quote from it. I’m also tired of typing he/she or his/her so I’m going to assume the person is a male until specified otherwise because “he” is one letter shorter than “she” and therefore less time-consuming to type. I formatted my citation exactly as he did mine and even kept the link to the article at the beginning of my blog. So now you have two links to the author’s page, and a properly formatted quotation, so there should be absolutely no problems now.

I forgot to mention this earlier, but the message from the author asking me to remove his article from my page set a deadline of 5:00 PM or else he would report me for my alleged copyright infringement. This implies that he intends to check my blog by 5:00 PM today to ensure that I have complied, which means that he will have another opportunity to address my response to his blog. I would hope that since he used my blog as a source for his article and misused it to form a false conclusion that he would have the courtesy to debate the issue with me.

Once again, if I committed any improprieties in the way that I used your article in this blog originally, I apologize.

Update (08/23/08): It’s well past 5:00, even on the west coast, and still no reply from village-idiot as to the way in which he distorted the portion he quoted from my article and formed false conclusions by combining unrelated sources. Of course, it is typical of liberals to avoid confrontations involving logic. It is even more typical for them to admit when they are wrong, and instead ignore valid points that would prove them to be so. Next time I’m at a different computer, I’ll attempt to post my response on his page so that he can make no excuses for ignoring it. I don’t really see him having much of an excuse at this point either, though.

Update (08/24/08): The village-idiot webmaster is a she and has responded to my blog in the comments section. The debate will continue there.

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6 Comments on “My blog was cited by a liberal blog!”

  1. Anthony Yow Says:

    I love you, Mike.

  2. whoo Says:

    Firstly, I am female. Had you taken the time to read beyond that one post, that probably would have been made abundantly clear to you.

    Second, I don’t ever suggest or state that you wrote anything regarding the case in California, OR that the religious nutcases on that forum had written anything about the Muslim cab drivers.

    It was snapshot of responses — here’s one to one item, heres another to a similar, but different one.

    The fact is, I read several conservative blogs, (your’s is not one), and I frequently read comments that are similar to, “Christians need to be a protected minority”.

    Whether you agree or disagree, there is a double standard. Christians are persecuted. Muslims, they’re just the enemy.

    Gotta love this comment off the LA Times article :

    These doctors should be able to treat whom ever they please. They should have their rights also. According to the bible a gay person is a sin. It is not normal for the same sex to have relationships. God created man and woman. That is the way families are supposed to be. I wouldn’t want a child to be born with a gay person and then grow up to be confused, and think this is normal.

    I wonder what Elizabeth (the commenter) would say if she got off the plane here, and a Muslim cab driver refused to take her somewhere because she brought a bottle of Kahlua from Mexico back with her?

    hmm…

    Furthermore, while you may feel I distorted something, I disagree, since the spirit of the post was not to single any one person out, but to show dissimilar reactions to similar situations. I link to all my sources, and allow the reader to come to their own conclusions.

    That said, you wrote this:

    Muslim cab drivers at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport began refusing to carry passengers with alcoholic beverages or seeing-eye dogs because alcohol is forbidden in Islam and dogs are viewed as unclean. Oh, it’s no problem! We’re just glad we can accommodate you!

    So here is my question to you..

    I live in St. Paul. I work in Minneapolis. The Airport commission received thousands of complaints. Cab drivers who refuse a fare, for that sort of reason, go back to the end of line the taxi line. There was no accommodating, no appeasement. Are we going to hold Doctors to the same standard? You tell me?

  3. mcmeador Says:

    Firstly, I am female. Had you taken the time to read beyond that one post, that probably would have been made abundantly clear to you.

    I’m sorry. I didn’t really have a reason to.

    Second, I don’t ever suggest or state that you wrote anything regarding the case in California, OR that the religious nutcases on that forum had written anything about the Muslim cab drivers.

    It was snapshot of responses — here’s one to one item, heres another to a similar, but different one.

    Yes, a snapshot of unrelated responses regarding different religions. The conclusion you come to is completely false. Just because Person #1 says that Christians should be able to refuse service based on religion and Person #2 who is not even a part of that discussion says Muslims should not be able to refuse service based on religion doesn’t mean that a double standard has been set. Those are simply random opinions. If one person were to express both of those opinions, then that would be a double standard.

    The fact is, I read several conservative blogs, (your’s is not one), and I frequently read comments that are similar to, “Christians need to be a protected minority”.

    And in those blogs, did the same people also say that Muslims shouldn’t be? Because that’s what you implicate with your conclusion, but you have yet to provide any evidence of a large group, much less a single person, setting such a double standard.

    Whether you agree or disagree, there is a double standard. Christians are persecuted. Muslims, they’re just the enemy.

    Well then do a better job of proving it, because your post on the issue definitely does not.

    I wonder what Elizabeth (the commenter) would say if she got off the plane here, and a Muslim cab driver refused to take her somewhere because she brought a bottle of Kahlua from Mexico back with her?

    In the world of honest debate, we don’t base our arguments on what-ifs.

    Furthermore, while you may feel I distorted something, I disagree, since the spirit of the post was not to single any one person out, but to show dissimilar reactions to similar situations.

    But in none of the situations that you presented did a single person express these dissimilar reactions. One reaction was to one issue by one person, and the other was to a totally separate issue by a different person. The spirit of your post was to imply a double standard. By suggesting that your sources are proving a double standard when none of them expressed one, you are definitely distorting the context of your sources.

    I link to all my sources, and allow the reader to come to their own conclusions.

    That doesn’t change the fact that your conclusion is an illegitimate one.

    So here is my question to you..

    I live in St. Paul. I work in Minneapolis. The Airport commission received thousands of complaints. Cab drivers who refuse a fare, for that sort of reason, go back to the end of line the taxi line. There was no accommodating, no appeasement. Are we going to hold Doctors to the same standard? You tell me?

    I never said we were accommodating or appeasing these Muslim cab drivers in particular. If you read my post, you’d know that my point was that Muslims are living in a country that is going to outrageous lengths to accommodate them, yet many show no effort to do the same for us because it’s against their religion.

    And the answer to your question is yes, we apparently are going to hold doctors to the same standard. Your own blog post began by saying that the California Supreme Court ruled against the doctors’ rights to refuse service based on religion.

  4. serdafied Says:

    I’m from the school of thought that the person who wrote his blog did it from the POV of an ignorant person! and that you are racist but thats just cause you’re a republican from Mississippi.

  5. sandrar Says:

    Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post… nice! I love your blog. 🙂 Cheers! Sandra. R.

  6. mcmeador Says:

    Thanks for the compliment! I’m glad you like it. As you’ve probably noticed, I haven’t posted a new blog entry here since April…I guess I’ve just gotten distracted doing other things and I’m so fed up with the things going on in this country that I try to avoid thinking about it as much as possible! I did really enjoy actively posting on here, though. I need to try to get back into it.


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